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Number ofs are not in a great direction. support for this is not high. it's working to a degree. >> in those hearings, and on television, republicans are on point. they are on message. they're not fighting this substance or even going anywhere near the substance. they're saying this is a sham. attacking witnesses. staying on message. it appears to be working. >> today you see in the senate, senator grassly and graham. and johnson of wisconsin. raising again the idea of ukrainian meddling. they want to hear from this democratic consultant. who was looking into the manafort stuff. that is anothe...

Excuse me. to quote influencing an election. how exactly? >> what do i care about any of that? he's the president of the united states. >> no, no. you've got to live with it. >> he lied about criminal conduct. that's why i'm talking about it. he had lost i wouldn't care about his personal life. >> you're talking about 2016. >> no, i'm not talking about 2016. >> influencing -- you are. >> i'm talking about him lying about these payments again and again to the american people. >> manafort stuff was 2006. >> and if he wants to pardon manafort that's his power. we hear the talk about it. rudy says...

This was baked into the cake with trump supporters. on the >> jesse: manafort casee ulterior motives for the prosecution going after that. is there a real political lasting damage for this? >> i don't think we note the answer to that. i think it is the beginning of an effort to really put the squeeze on some of these people and potentially, where does that lead? we don't know. we do know that the mueller team seems to be moving a little quicker on a number of fronts. the goal, as we are hearing here in washington, is to get some kind of interim report out before the midterms, possibly by early...

We'll get to the manafort stuff, michael, but i want to ask you about the special counsel, robert mueller's recommending six months in jail for former trump campaign adviser gorge papadopoulpop dop -- george papadopoulos. they say he made false statements, allowing a man to leave the country. what do you make of this? >> it's been interesting to see what kind of plea recommendations the special counsel's office would make. i'm not surprised at all, certainly in an investigation like this, that they're sending a message they will not tolerate somebody obstructing the investigation. that's essen...

Second day of deliberations today without a verdict. they'll be back on monday. there are concerns the unusual behavior of judge ellis may influence jurors. i want to bring in mike moore, a former u.s. attorney, also nancy gertner, a former federal judge and harvard law professor. good evening to both of you. we're going to get to the manafort stuff, michael, but i want to ask you about the special counsel robert mueller's recommending of six months in jail for former trump campaign adviser george papadopoulos. they say he made false statements to them about a man wanted in their investigation...