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People? those types of decisions require precise measurements. >> head for that white levee break over there. >> coming up. >> bob holmes and his team of usgs scientists have a critical job in the fight against the flood. using sensitive gps-syncedp doppler instruments they can precisely measure the river's flow through the demolished levee. it's been averaging 3 million gallons per second. why is that important to find out the flow rate? >> the corps is interested in diverting water fthrough the floodway. they'll know how much is coming in. that's how they make their management decisions. >> ...

That should just be done. that's the executive branch's responsibility to run an agency properly, and if they ran it improperly, whether republican or democratic, they can fix it without legislation. >> so all that sexual favors and partying back and forth between regulator and regulatee should have been stopped executive-wise. don't need a bill. >> fire the people, fire them. >> i think they did move them out. giving subpoena power to the investigating committee. isn't that something we ought to have to the investigating committee to find out what happened here and what went wrong? >> i agree...

I'm getting ready to go back myself and question him some more. at least we'll have this on the record. i will also say this committee, the oversight and investigation subcommittee, is not going to just stop today. we're going to keep bringing the bp employees and their subcontractors in until we get answers to how this terrible tragedy occurred and how we can prevent did in the future. and how we're going to compensate the victims quickly. >> you know when a plane crashes or we have some other tragedy, we have a black box we try to find in the water or somewhere and we go through it and try t...

Get on an airplane. so we have to have a rigorous, re-calibration of our regulatory system and we have to figure out a way to move off of oil because that's the only way to prevent the ultimate damage to the ocean. the ceos today were a little bit -- they didn't want to admit this, but the fact of the matter is that every oil well spills carbon into the atmosphere because carbon dioxide makes the oceans acidic. they're 30% more acidic because of the carbon we burn. we have to find the new technology to do that and i hope the president will talk about this tonight. >> joining us now is politico...

>> joining us now is politico's jonathan allen. do you think during the course of the testimony today that these companies were able to say it was equipment breakdown? it isn't the tools that are to blame. i am told by experts that it's management decisions as the congressman allowed right then that caused this spill? >> i think what the executives are saying not only would they have made better decisions, but they have better plans to prevent blowouts and better plans for cleanup if the blowout happened. you have the four other executives piling on bp and throwing them down the well, if you w...