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Been successful in our state is clear, direct messaging that people can believe in and listen to. that's been a problem all over the map. governor beshear, i'm curious of your thoughts on the biden covid task force. i know you talked about having just a metric that, you know, if you hit the number, mask mandate triggers. if you're below a certain number of infections, no. why has it been hard to create a statistical line here? we know when a tropical storm becomes a hurricane because you measure the wind speed. why has that been difficult with covid? >> well, it has been difficult, and it shou...

Believe in. and listen to. and that's been a problem all over the map. . >> governor beshear, i'm curious on your thoughts on the biden task force and your metric, if you hit the number, mask mandate triggers. if you're below the number of infection, no. why has it been hard to just create a statistical line here? we know when a tropical storm becomes a hurricane because you measure the wind speed. why has that been difficult with covid? >> well, it has been difficult, and it shouldn't be because it's just basic science. and our health care providers have been wearing masks for decades. why? t...

It, but it's not stopping people from getting breakthrough infections. so i think the messaging was not clear with either administration. and i think that's one of the ways we have been successful in our state, is with clear, direct messaging that people can believe in. and listen to. and that's been a problem all over the map. >> governor bashear, i'm curious on your thoughts on the biden task force and your metric, if you hit the number, mask mandate triggers. if you're below the number of infection, no. why has it been hard to just create a statistical line here? we know when a tropical sto...