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He stepped in and got a conviction. >> will there be a federal case taken here? >> i think that's more likely than the case in ferguson. i can certainly see the argument made there's probable cause for negligent homicide. whether that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt will remain to be seen. i can see the case being made out here. >> i think attorney general holder will go after a systemic problem in ferguson and a particular one in this case. they look at that guy and sympathize with him as a person. he's even a likable looking guy. i can't explain why but he seems like a likable guy. d...

To render a judgment. in the case of governor christie, very careful in defending the very role of a grand jury. he wasn't going to question the process. the proper role for politicians is our topic. what should politicians say or not say when these things are happening? joining me is the speaker of new york city council and former rnc chair, michael steel. let me go to the speaker. what do you think a politician should say? nixon notoriously came out and said charles manson was guilty and almost screwed the case. should politicians speak about the rightness or wrongness of a injury decision? ...

And i think that there was injustice done in this case. i can speak for myself. i cannot speak for every single individual. >> you believe the police officers in that case should have been indicted or some level of homicide? >> this should have been taken to a criminal trial. >> but the only way is to indict. >> exactly. i believe there should have been indictment. i believe the grand jury was wrong. >> what do you think, mike? >> i think she's got it exactly right. >> you think politicians should be able to render justice saying in the case of -- she has very carefully not saying people shoul...

Frustration and anger and constructively direct it towards fixing a system that everyone perceives to be broken, particularly in this case that there is something that did not work. what was it that this prosecutor saw that the rest of us apparently didn't see that led him to think this was not a -- >> what did you think of governor christie's statement that he's fine with the decision of the court. >> he's a prosecutor. i don't expect him to say anything that's going to be outlined of supporting the very process that he was in charge of for many years. same with hillary clinton. she gave the ...

Clearly in this case, that was not the case. the officer's actions, when he made the decision to use the chokehold, he knew or should have known his actions were wrong and should have known the consequences of those actions. >> thank you so much. coming up with a roundtable. ted cruz and his band on the right want to shut the government down. joe mccarthy is at it again. plus, the secret figure in the hillary clinton campaign who is already undercutting what could be her biggest competition on the way to the nomination. a remote that lives on your phone.