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To find the money and cars to take his family to death valley. where he told them they would wait out helter skelter. and who had money and cars? >> his munich music teacher friend, gary hinman. >> and charlie knew all of that. >> eric carlson was with gary when manson called with his demands. >> he's telling that gary it's time for him to join the family because this whole helter skelter was coming and he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who had become used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he ...

Out helter skelter. and who had money and cars? his music teacher friend. gary hinman. >> charlie knew that. he was telling gary it's time for him to join the family, because this whole helter skelter was coming and that he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who became used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he said, gary, this is your last chance. if you do not do this, i will not be responsible for the karma you will invoke upon yourself. >> karma, manson sometime. then he sent a friend of the fa...

Out helter skelter. and who had money and cars? his music teacher friend. gary hinman. >> he's telling him it's time to join the family because this whole helter skelter was coming and that he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who became used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he said, gary, if you do not do this, i will not be responsible for the karma you will invoke upon yourself. >> karma, manson style. then he sent a friend of the family bobby bosolay and susan atkins and mary bruner to shake...

Bad charlie? >> yeah. he really got mean. >> desperate to find the money and cars to take his family to death valley. where he told them they'd wait out helter skelter. and who had money and cars in his music teacher friend. gary hinman. >> charlie knew that. he was telling gary it's time for him to join the family, because this whole helter skelter was coming and that he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who became used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he said, gary, if you do not do this, i wi...