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Horrible memories, not only for myself, but other manson family victims. >> larry: glenn, you have other manson stuff there. does it bother you, what debra just said? >> well, we certainly try to concern ourselves with the thoughts and concerns of victims and certainly our hearts go out to them. it was, as chief beck mentioned, it was a terrible tragedy with a number of people lost their lives. likewise, we have an obligation both as a museum and then the bigger one as the police department to train, educate, and inform officers and the public doing about people that do this particular job of ...

>> larry: glenn martin, a classic example is the famous manson murder case, the killing of a whole bunch of people, a terrible tragedy. what do you see at the exhibit concerning that? >> one of the centerpieces of that exhibit happens to be the charles manson's car. they loaned it to watson for the purposes of initiating helter skelter, which was his scheme that resulted in the manson murders. that's this yellow ford fairline that's parked behind us. certainly the biggest piece exhibit in here, but there are also other interesting artifacts that are related to the manson murders of 1969. >> la...