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Im stephen sackur. Leaders who routinely abuse their power cant stand to be laughed at. Satire is a potent political weapon, and that is a truth my guest today has exploited for a0 years. Pieter dirk uys styles himself as the most famous white woman in south africa, thanks to his alter ego, auntie evita a character he created to poke fun at the White Afrikaner establishment during the apartheid era, and which he now uses to lampoon jacob zuma and the anc, but are there are dangers in playing south africas recent history for laughs . Pieter dirk uys, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you. Youve made a career and a life out of humour, pretty subversive humour. But would you say youre fundamentally driven by anger, or is it Something Else . I think anger is a very important motivation, after all these years, and especially in the beginning when i was very quiet and very scared of opinion, because most of it was illegal. So actually i try to keep a balance of 49 anger, 51 entertainment, not the o

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