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This is the workers argument against globalism and that globalization and free trade is excellent for gdp growth. it's excellent for corporate profitability but if you're a manufacturing worker in a high wage country like the united states, it's hard to make the case it's been excellent for you and that's what president trump is playing to. i'll say this, on that particular point, he does have a point. >> what are we expecting when he arrives there? >> reporter: extra security. this is already one of the more secure places in the world and, in fact, we've -- we've got all this snow so the norm...

Is an auto state and has been particularly hard hit back in the year in 2003, a manufacturing worker in michigan got about $28 an hour. this has dropped. after you adjust for inflation, it has dropped to $20 an hour today. manufacturing worker in michigan went from $28 to $20 after adjusting for inflation. >> almost a 30% drop. >> exactly. there's nothing in the trump plan, nothing really in anybody's plan pretty much for how to resolve this. and then we talked about competition. when you asked about automation versus wages. here's the challenge. and kristen referred to this as well. we pay at...

Kinds of jobs. on balance, walmart has been a very positive thing for the american economy. i agree. i think this ad touches your sort of sense of patriotism. i liked it. >> mike roe says, look, i'm not advocating for walmart. at least it is doing something. i am here to help create american jobs. if this creates just one, that's okay. >> walmart sort of walked right into it. so many people have said isn't it rich that walmart is proposing to buy $250 million of american made goods over ten years when walmart is the one who drove those factories overseas in the first place. walmart is a huge e...

Daylight saving too many. >> you have inner angst? >> it's not inner. >> he wears it on his sleeve. the question about manufacturing. apple made news a couple of months ago we are going to cut manufacturing jobs back here. some people said that would sort of a cosmetic thing. is there opportunity for manufacturing to come back to the united states in a way that is good for the middle class? in other words, not low paying jobs? can a manufacturing worker in the united states compete globally at this point? >> two answers. i think, yes, manufacturing is coming back for a variety of reasons. but ...

Talking about here, is as simple as a question of unions have gotten weaker in the united states and that's what's happening. >> that's a big piece of it. >> i think it's a piece of it. the thing that worries me much more, i think what we're really seeing is the american worker, the manufacturing worker, and increasingly people doing white collar jobs, being he can posed to the full force of technological change and globalization. you see it now. a lot of people are talking about the resurrection of the american manufacturing. and the price at which that is happening is wages falling hugely. w...