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But i will say last weekend we were speaking with philadelphia mayor michael nutter, who was having a meeting that very weekend with cities united, and it was a group addressing this exact same issue that you bring up. but, doug, how does that change the picture? >> well, look, this is an ongoing story here. all i'm suggesting is that this now has large implications. i agree completely with the reverend, and it opens -- just like hurricane katrina -- opened up all sorts of issues about race and caste in america. today isabelle wilkerson has a marvelous piece, and i recommend everybody to read ...

Stand your ground and kill an unarmed teen, you basically go home. it is mind numbing to think this can happen. how does this happen legally? >> well, okay, a couple of things. let's separate the law from the rhetoric, and i think what has happened in this particular case is there's simply too much hot rhetoric about what people think the law is as opposed to what the law needs to be. the problem in this particular case is whether or not this man if he's ever arrested is going to be able to get a fair trial, and it doesn't look like that. what you've got is you've got people on either side of ...

Welcome to "weekends with alex witt." a new twist in the mart mar case. an orlando paper spoke to two audio expert who is say the screams heard on the 911 tapes from the night of the shooting are not from george zimmerman. take a listen. absolutely chilling. joining me now is tom owen, one of the voice identification experts quoted in the "orlando sentinel" report. he analyzed that 911 tape.