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Some of the discussions we are hearing back and forth on roe v. wade and looking at some of the records, i would love it if there were that kind of a substantive issue-based debate. i think we are unlikely to see it. you are likely to see charges and personal attacks that have the kind of attacks that are difficult if not impossible for the nominees and for the administration to answer because they are either made up out of whole cloth or so exaggerating a part of the nominee's record that that's what the fight will be about. >> you know, that sound bite that you played from durban illustrated...

Feel about griswold, et cetera and they are not going to succeed. >> bret: i'm going to try very, very hard to pin you down. steve hilton, first to you, which of the four that we think we know about do you think is going to be? >> i'm going for cavanaugh. >> mara mark >> cavanaugh. >> i don't do predictions and i'm not going to start now. >> i picked brit hume. >> bret: tough. brexit in chaos. talks concerning north korea and afghanistan. plus, the president gets ready for that nato summit in vladimir putin. keep it here. e see the artist mn attempt to bare his soul. it's just a gray dot. ther...

>> this has been a preview. what we've seen, what you played in the introduction is exactly what we seen from democrats. i think the hysteria you are seeing from democrats about what is in all likelihood, if it's one of the four we have been talking about, is a mainstream conservative choice. i think it will not do them wel well. listening to some of the discussions on some of the other networks, hysteria about donald trump choosing a nominee so that he can get beneficial rulings on the supreme court. it's gone so far beyond what we should be discussing about in terms of the nominee, particula...

Results they could not otherwise democratically. >> bret: is there a nominee, mara, who any democrat can feel comfortable voting for besides merrick garland? >> is there a nominee that donald trump would put up? looking at that list of 25, which the president said this was the pool that he was going to choose from, i don't see anyone there that wouldn't raise the same objections from democrats. >> bret: right, so is it a bumpy ride? >> i think for the nominee it won't be a bumpy ride because what we've seen in the past is these nominees don't answer any questions about how they feel about cert...

Heritage in putting together this list. the president has two lists to who he will nominate. there have been attacks and everybody connected with this. last time we were waiting for the name justice gorsuch, it was much colder but there were folks here ready to protest. there was literally a blank line and they got their markers out when justice gorsuch was announced. they are going to protest anyone he will nominate. >> bret: is there a nominee they could say we could sign off on? >> bret: merrick garland. >> bret: they said we are going to do court packing after we win back the presidency an...