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People i have served with in iraq and afghanistan. you know, they know how important this region is, and i think as we look at events like today, we can see their influence. so look, it's going to be a hard, rough road, but i would much rather see a president trump wading into this. there will be setbacks. we hope there are achievements as well. than simply backing away from it. >> ambassador crocker, thank you so much for being part of our coverage. we appreciate having your viewpoint as always. we want to bring in two more guests who are veterans of this world, and this sort of thing, beginn...

Tough talk. hallie? >> and, hans, also delivering on what president trump had long promised on the campaign trail as well. interesting developments coming out of that meeting in brussels. i want to talk about that, plus a thousand other topics with marcel letra here with us on set. i want to begin with the nato comments here. what do you make of this? you had trouble hearing hans in your ear piece. general mattis is saying they either have to spend more or the u.s. will step back. what's the impact? >> i think it's good to put pressure on our allies as part of nato but make sure we're threadin...