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Lawyer has clients who get indicted doesn't mean that you say oh, i'm not going to meet with the lawyer anymore -- >> presumably most of the lawyers you meet with have clients who have been indicted. >> absolutely. all of them do. so it's a very, very unusual announcement. it tells you -- in fact, we now know there is an investigation. and one of the ways it could be -- there could be a real overlap, and this is speculation, we don't know what the southern district is doing, but one way you could do that is if you have a case on bribery involving the president, well, the president under the do...

>> presumably most of it lawyers you meet with have clients who have been indicted. >> absolutely. all of them do. and it's a very unusual announcement and tells you there is an investigation. one of the reasons there could be real overlap and this is speculation. we don't know what the southern district is doing. but one way you could do that is if you have a case on bribery involving the president. well, the president under doj policy cannot be indicted while he's in office. that does not apply to anyone else who was involved. now, we know rudy giuliani was involved not just from a number of...