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He spent the whole day yesterday talking about donald trump's lack of -- he knows more than anyone about where this standoff with north korea stands. what do you think worries him most? >> joseph uhn, an experienced american diplomatic for japan and korea, he's been our point person on north korea. he's been over there. he is the one who talks to koreans in new york. he's been concerned and talking to congression al aides and staf members and telling them, look, i think we have a moment, an opportunity to have some diplomatic dialogue with the pyongyang regime but the president's actions, his ...

About donald trump that we ask about kim jong-un. they asked me, is he, as they put it, rational, or is he smart? they said they're struggling to answer that question. you know, in some ways we know how we look at this confrontation. this feels to us as it north korea is taking these inexplicable steps toward greater and greater confrontation with the united states. from the north korean perspective, they say they are encountering a u.s. president than they have dealt with before. he's using language they never heard before. he's saying things like preventive war. when i was in korea in august...

They said they're struggling to answer that question. you know, in some ways we know how we look at this confrontation. this feels to us as it north korea is taking these inexplicable steps toward greater and greater confrontation with the united states. from the north korean perspective, they say they are encountering a u.s. president than they have dealt with before. he's using language they never heard before. he's saying things like preventive war. when i was in korea in august, the president is not the only one that can launch a preventive war. >> one of the interpretations that comes out...