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Alternative energy industry, we are as a nation competing with other countries that subsidize alternative energy because they all see it as the future moving away from oil dependency, jon, and whereas in the bain situation, yes, there are companies that succeeded and failed, but even with a company that failed in the bain case, i think the obama team is able to make the case that the bain principles take profit out of that and walk away with money in their pockets while people lose jobs. carney didn't nail that. jon onas a u.s. taxpayer, mare credit catherine ham, i'd like my money back from s...

Department of transportation, up 548 percent in spending, commerce department, up 219 percent in spending. department of education, up 181 percent in spending. those are whoppers! i mean, is anyone getting the message, mary katharine? >> well, that's the question. i'm not sure politicians are getting the message. the saving grace of all this, because we have a colossal problem ahead of us, this is very hard politically to solve, the saving grace maybe be -- may be that the american people are actually saying you really need to deal with this and i don't think that they're going to be satisfied...