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Destruction and that's when it's going to get really sticky. very, very terrible situation. john, i could talk with you for an hour, but we have limited time. thank you as always, my friend. we appreciate it. and we'll see you again next time john jordan joining a script. meantime, back over to you. yeah, kevin , russian propaganda is working, spreading, disinformed. and shortly after the missile strike on the railway station in kramatorsk, russian state controlled media tried to turn the table by blame ukrainian forces. the same thing happened following the mass killings in bujar with moscow ...

They strike after this awful atrocity in kramatorsk is that they actually took credit for this because the russian controlled telegram channel me in my statement that they target the ukrainian military is there in kramatorsk. but when they realized the scale of the deaths among civilians, they started deleting that tweets and messages and started accusing ukrainian armed forces in this attack and after that we have seen numerous disinformation messages throughout russian media is a telegram. channels are controlled by russian special services, especially geriau and also in russian state media ...

Maria devah, one of the many great and brave courageous journalists here in ukraine trying to get the truth out. maria, thank you for taking time. kevin yeah, that was a terrific conversation, griff and i think you nailed it when you talk about this idea of trying to get the truth out. disinformation is a real thing and it's particularly acute challenge for the globe when you have so many journalists in harm's way, you're trying to keep them connected to what's happening over there while trying to keep them safe as well. and a very interesting conversation. thank you , my friend, as always. co...

On how informed the russian population is of what's really happening here in ukraine? russia has managed to completely twist out the information reality of the russian people and we see it by the results of the latest polls in russia. the support for putin's excellent, excellent growth and the support for this aggressive war . and i'm sure you have seen this picture on one of the rocket that hit kramatorsk and killed 50 more than 50 civilians and five ukrainian children. it's read in russian for children it means they are feeding into their own population. the idea that they need to destroy uk...