not to bring ukraine into the nato family now at this moment in the middle of the war. ukraine now promises it will not use the american supplied cluster munitions in russia. it comes as the controversial weapons divided congress. they want these as self-defense to use against russians in their own country of ukraine. i don t see anything wrong with the, these weapons would be a game-changer. cluster bombs should never be used. that is crossing a line. we would risk losing our moral leadership. also new today, treasury secretary janet yellen returns from china after a weekend of high stakes meetings. the secretary is optimistic progress is being made to shore up tense relations. i had a very construct a visit. i received a warm welcome and had a very substantial series of meetings. an objective of my trip was to explain the national security is something that we can t compromise on and we will protect. capitol hill is bracing for a potential far-right feud as marj
their theory of fraud. i believe the fake elector scheme will be part of charges if the department of justice brings charges. i don t think it will be the totality here. with respect to rudy, one of the things i find so interesting both about the fact that rudy went in analysts that nbc news put out this morning a folks who have given grandeur testimony is who is not on it and who rudy had contact with. that s event i again with significant overlap. the folks who are not on it include mark meadows, sydney powell, patrick byrne, mike flynn, folks who were giving trump advice to continue perpetrating and investigating the big lie and who themselves might be in the crosshairs of the criminal investigation. absolutely stunning. lisa reuben, i will see you again, no doubt. eric, come see me again. thank you. it is their caucus and they will kick her out if they want to. why we are going to make new clarity in the saga of marjorie taylor greene and the freedom caucus.
what does it say about where the far right wing of the republican party is? well, in part, it is right, but it at least used to be a little bit more serious about being conservative, something along those lines. i think she has gotten too loud for the freedom caucus. they don t like that she is comfortable with speaker mccarthy and what it represents. i think that puts kevin mccarthy in a very precarious situation. five votes is what prevents him from being speaker. it is a very curious thing that he has to be aware of. it s bad politics for republicans in general to have marjorie taylor greene now considered the moderate mainstream republican. please that is a really frightening thought.
house floor in a tense exchange with lauren boebert. that may have been the final straw. joining me now is don calloway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund, susan presale, republican strategist, and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. they are both msnbc political analysts. i like to introduce you guys as my sunday family. genuine think marjorie taylor greene has blocked scott perry so we can reassure together the news. i m just thinking it could be a possibility. anyway, if that s not the answer, david, do expect her to get more clarity this week? what s your interpretation of what is going on between green and the freedom caucus? i don t know if we will get clarity from the freedom caucus. they don t like to speak a lot about their own internal membership. it s like the rules a fight club. marjorie taylor greene loves to grab headlines. we might get her side of the story. based on my experience in the house, i think t
one thing. marjorie taylor greene s relationship with kevin mccarthy she decided to go all in with mccarthy to help him become speaker. mccarthy has used marjorie taylor greene as a bit of a tool within the caucus to be able to lever the freedom caucus and the harder right members. that is anathema to the entire existence of the freedom caucus. the freedom caucus exists because they are interested in hard ideology, not governing. they exist because of an innate destruct stove leadership whether was john boehner, paul ryan, or kevin mccarthy. they don t trust mccarthy today. therefore, i think this is about marjorie taylor greene being too cozy with the speaker. the freedom caucus no longer trusts her to be a member. back in this up, susan, the new article in the atlantic, here s what that says. marjorie taylor greene is no longer radical enough for the gop s radical fringe. is that how you interpret the vote?