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Haberman is on the phone. maggie, what have you got? what's the headline? >> it's a complicated one. it's a tick-tock into the drafting of a statement aboard air force one that the president supervised. he had hope hicks, donald trump jr., and a lawyer with the trump organization involved in the writing of this statement, and it was in response to a times story that was coming about donald trump jr.'s meeting with a russian lawyer during the campaign in the summer of 2016. specifically we've learned a couple of things. one is who was involved in the drafting, how it came about. we get into how...

>> chris, thanks for having me back. it is relevant. it's another part of the mosaic, the evidence is accumulating of, as you say, corrupt intent to obstruct justice. we're not ready yet to find that the offense has occurred, but it's troubling. you know, part of the problem is, it's evidence of cover-up, chris, and that's what always goes along with obstruction. the effort to hide it. whenever you have a witness who may have said -- and i know bob trout from my days in the white collar bar. he's an honorable guy. if he says no, you can take that seriously. but whenever there's an indication t...

You have intent. and when they're looking at obstruction of justice, the intent is the tricky part. can a prosecutor find evidence of corrupt intent? so impeding and doing acts with bad cause. maybe this fits into the puzzle. it certainly fits into our understanding. magg maggie haberman, whatever you were doing, get back to it. thanks for talking to us tonight. perfect. that really helps us to set the stage for tonight's great debate. cnn contributor, former obama white house ethics czar norman eisen and cnn legal commentator, former trump white house lawyer james schultz. gentlemen, thank yo...