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Tonight. Thats the deeply personal story of his source, who remains secret, but is a Government Official who knows that releasing that was a violation of law and he or she, whoever it is, lives in fear of what will now happen to that Government Official. And, you know, we know from reporting like ronans and some of the other reporting where people are trying to figure out how this banking information came into the public domain, we know from the reporting the way that data base of those reports works is that you can tell who looks at what. Theres a record when anybody looks at those things, le...

Trump jr., would you like to speak to him, there's, you know, a strong chance that she can just physically hand him the phone on air force one. he knows she's on air force one. >> right. and he also knows that hope hicks is at that time, was the longest serving, most reliable a aide that donald trump had. talking to her was the same as talking to his father. maybe they didn't want to communicate or maybe they gist made up this little lie. it also became extremely relevant, as you said, lawrence, because remember hope hicks' words about all of these communications and e-mails. they're never goi...

Talking to her was the same as talking to his father. maybe they didn't want to communicate or maybe they gist made up this little lie. it also became extremely relevant, as you said, lawrence, because remember hope hicks' words about all of these communications and e-mails. they're never going to get them. that was a peculiar phrase which set off a former spokesman mark carallo for the legal team. and it does take on an ominous tone where she is acting as a buffer, some would say. some would say a cut-out so there's not a direct record of donald trump jr. speaking to his father. this is all b...

Even met him and his partner. but there was no chemistry. so he lost john dowd and still doesn't have the digenovas. >> i spoke to john dowd about this. he vehemently says his leaving had nothing to do with jodi geneva. i don't know if that's true. i tend to kind of believe him on this point. but the broader point is correct. this announcement came out, then we find out that the president wasn't impressed by them when he met them. he also -- there were some people that he listens to very carefully on the legal front who told him you cannot have joe digenova leading your team. there was also th...

You had a nice weekend or you watched "60 minutes", and you go, oh, this guy on fox who had the conspiracy theory is now off the team already. >> legal experts say this was simply sloppy. the president didn't do due diligence, didn't do his vetting. it causes another public relations challenge for him. unclear if he cares about that. maybe confirms the fact that mark carallo has testified against the president. we get a lot of hints every time these things happen. this is an incident where we can glean some information. >> what did you think of that, lanny? >> first of all, we have several sto...