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Provoked the incidents. consider only the few seconds that the incident occurred and then deem whether or not the person on the offense was justified in that case, and it really limits and narrows down what -- what they try to do is narrow down the jury's focus into those few seconds and have people debate whether it was justified or not without consideration of the provocation. >> yeah, understood. i heard you mention that you don't see yourself as a full authority there, although we do given your experience as a police officer and in civil rights, and maya, mark can speak to how police depar...

Ties yourself as law enforcement and act as law enforcement and even be given certain courtesies and professional courtesies as law enforcement as long as it's against throws two individuals. >> all such important points. it's heavy stuff. i'm mention again for accuracy for the viewers, in the arbery case, of course, there's a separate hate crimes issue that has yet to be litigated which goes to the underlying evidence of documented racism. the prosecutors in this murder trial are steering away from it. whether that's legal strategy, we'll see in the days ahead how that fared. that's another l...

Very different from taking someone who beat the case and turning them immediately into some sort of hero or representative of self-defense or second amendment values or all of the rest. all of this is happening while these other cases remain open. again, i stress legally they're not linked, but for america, as one nation they are in the public mind, as we figure out just where the line is how much has to be on tape and how much, not self-defense, but self-offense with armed people killing unarmed people sometimes across racial lines, how much of this is going to be co-signed by juries of our p...

Search. >> efforts are resuming this morning for gabby petito. police have named brian laundrie as a person of interest. laundrie returned without her. joining us right now, mark claxton and jay oliver. we want to start with you. how important right now are these two concurrent searches and how different are they? we have one in wyoming, one in florida. what are investigators doing right now? >> well, quite clearly, the investigation and the focus of the investigation has shifted somewhat. of course, the

About. it's about the camaraderie now one of our very own is caught up in the national spotlight and, thus, that's why you have an apb out right now as far as this story line is concerned. >> mark, let's talk about the time line here and how important it is to create an accurate one as investigators piece together what happened. you have when petito was last seen, when laundrie was last seen in wyoming. when laundrie was last seen in florida when his family reported him missing. right now how crucial is that exact time line? >> establishing that time line is critical to locating gabby and that...