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We need to address the situation where we have 3 million guns floating around. even if you would have been stopped by the database you could have gone online and purchased a semiautomatic weapon, high capacity magazine that allowed him to gun down those people. those things should be banned. >> laura: mark can you go online, if you commit domestic abuse and escape from a mental facility and buy a 9 millimeter no, problem? >> no, if you're prohibited through purchase at a gun store you are prohibited by any gun siels the internet or in many, many gun shows. i mean there are states where you cou...

Whatever you want to do to commit carnage you will get something to do it. on your point, high capacity magazines, i guess people could ban those and see how it goes. in the end we're dealing with depravity, evil, people with spousal abuse, they've been abused, there is a mental health aspect to this that is real. >> oh, i agree with you. that is certainly a piece of it. but, again, we have to make sure that those people don't have the easy access to guns. >> laura: he shouldn't have. and, mark, the fact that the air force still has not released the results of what has to be a fairly simple in...

The price of liberty is tigers. >> laura: stephen colbert talks about fences. joining us in idaho, is mark fuaman, and director of guns down, wants to dramatically reduce the number of guns in the united states. igor we won't do the whole interview in russian. but let's talk about what happened in texas. this individual was able to buy weapons, despite the fact that he's a domestic abuser, child abuser, escaped from a mental facility. that should never have happened. it's against federal law. there was a mistake at the air force level, we don't know who, but something happened. we have a lot o...

Shouldn't have guns, simply can't have access to them. it's not enough to do background checks. you have to go after the gun sales. >> laura: you think people will turn them in? government con physical cates them? how practically does this work. >> well, look, there's a bill, hr-4052 that bans high capacity magazines. dianne feinstein for years has been talking about reintroducing the assault weapon ban f that was in place this guy wouldn't have been able to get this kind of weapons. all of the shootings we hear about wouldn't have happened, with that weapon. >> laura: mark, close it out. >> w...

That needs to be addressed. we need to address the situation where we have 3 million guns floating around. even if you would have been stopped by the database you could have gone online and purchased a semiautomatic weapon, high capacity magazine that allowed him to gun down those people. those things should be banned. >> laura: mark can you go online, if you commit domestic abuse and escape from a mental facility and buy a 9 millimeter no, problem? >> no, if you're prohibited through purchase at a gun store you are prohibited by any gun siels the internet or in many, many gun shows. i mean th...