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With a pressure cooker bomb, throw acid on people's faces. whatever you want to do to commit carnage you will get something to do it. on your point, high capacity magazines, i guess people could ban those and see how it goes. in the end we're dealing with depravity, evil, people with spousal abuse, they've been abused, there is a mental health aspect to this that is real. >> oh, i agree with you. that is certainly a piece of it. but, again, we have to make sure that those people don't have the easy access to guns. >> laura: he shouldn't have. and, mark, the fact that the air force still has no...

Let's have a conversation about how we move 24 country toward fewer guns, guns are harder to get, when you need a license and training to have a gun. that's going to keep us safer. that's what other countries have done. why they have comparatively, a lot less killings than we do. >> laura: i like the idea of training, i think any kwon with a weapon should know how to use it, should know safety. mark, you spoke about this today with me earlier on radio, that individuals who carry weapons concealed kind of cool, carry a weapon concealed f you don't know how to use that weapon you could buy yours...

Fewer guns, guns are harder to get, when you need a license and training to have a gun. that's going to keep us safer. that's what other countries have done. why they have comparatively, a lot less killings than we do. >> laura: i like the idea of training, i think any kwon with a weapon should know how to use it, should know safety. mark, you spoke about this today with me earlier on radio, that individuals who carry weapons concealed kind of cool, carry a weapon concealed f you don't know how to use that weapon you could buy yourself into a lot of problems. however, this man was an nra instr...

Guns, almost every gun restriction has stood up to this interpretation. the second amendment isn't absolute. we can be smart in how we solve this. we are really the smartest nation in the world. these weapons, high capacity magazines, these assault weapons are big problem. they're used in every single mass shooting. one in vegas, the one we're seeing now. i'm sure we can come to an agreement here that you shouldn't be able to have an assault weapon, stack it up with rundz and bullets and just shoot people. >> laura: no, that's a crime, that's a federal crime. but just like you can't legally pu...

Someone is going to get eaten every day. the price of liberty is tigers. >> laura: stephen colbert talks about fences. joining us in idaho, is mark fuaman, and director of guns down, wants to dramatically reduce the number of guns in the united states. igor we won't do the whole interview in russian. but let's talk about what happened in texas. this individual was able to buy weapons, despite the fact that he's a domestic abuser, child abuser, escaped from a mental facility. that should never have happened. it's against federal law. there was a mistake at the air force level, we don't know who...