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Robert mueller, the man overseeing the russia investigation. let's talk it over with legal analyst defense attorney mark ger goes and paul callan. paul, sessions obviously taking the high rod satya nadella he's not going anywhere unless the president forces him out. do you think russia investigation is protected? >> he's in a difficult spot. i'm amazed that sessions has been able to put up with this level of attack on his integrity. frankly, though, the president has a point about the russia investigation. he brought sessions with the hope that sessions could put the russia investigation to be...

During the saturday night massacre, the attorney general refused to fire archibald cox who was the special prosecute. he we it was the only number three in line who did fire the special prosecut prosecutor. >> mark, your take? >> yeah. i think that's a very astute point. what you have is the number one, jeff sessions, who has already recused himself. rosenstein who's the number two has said he's not going to do it absence some kind of cause. and then everybody suspects that the number three, rachel brand would carry out the order. why go through all that and have all the inevitable comparisons

Try to summon in sessions, and sessions said if the subject matter is russia, i'm not going to go there and that's why he's in this. >> that's a great theory, but now how can trump turn around and name him homeland security? i don't trust him to run the justice department, let's put him in charge of the safety of the country. >> look, i hate to be skeptical but i think it's so he doesn't lose all the republican senators because they've already come out and said don't you dare, don't you dare. this is a way to get him off the chess board. >> this calls for a second independent council investiga...