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The national journal reported after the first debate that one of the reasons the president failed in that first debate is a posity of ideas of what he wanted to do in the future and that didn't hold up 90 minutes in a real debate with mitt romney face-to-face. not a lot has been asked of him on his plans. a lot has been asked of mitt romney, he gets details every day. i don't think the president gets those much, and he runs a challenger's campaign even though he's been the president at four years. mark hal principal of the "times" said where is the second term agenda. he said hey, it's been a ...

August to release his tax returns. they are making this front and center. they are talking about medicare which is a nonstarter for a republican campaign. they will not win on the medicare issue. >> mark hal principa halperin says you're wrong. he says they are doing what the obama campaign wants to do. >> i disagree with him. can i have your permission to dis disagree with him please. jon: what about the president's quote when he said you make a big election about small things. on balance aren't mitt romney's tax returns a relatively small thing. >> you can easily solve the problem by doing w...

Consider myself rich. and a lot of people, many democrats, sought to make a huge deal out of this. when you read the longer quote it was clear she was talking about how her struggles of multiple sclerosis and breast cancer made her understand spiritual wealth was more important. we know what these people mean. unless you're willfully misunderstanding and in the de niro case, a joke, and newt gingrich is misunderstanding it. it's throwing red meat to conservatives in louisiana. so that's what he needs to do. but let's be honest. this has to pass the reasonable test. if reasonable people can say...

Going to be it. >> mark hal print, they've been debating the economy, in addition to spending their wives out to sort of vouch for them with women voters, debateding the economy. and rick santorum said this about unemployment and then had to try to explain himself. i wanted to play that bite. >> you need a candidate who is going to be a fighter for freedom, going to get up and make that the central theme in the race because t. is the central team. my campaign done hinge on unemployment and growth rates. there's something more foundational that's go on here. >> does that become a problem to say...

You. taxi driver. mark? >> you mean about this? >> yeah. >> you know, the democrats in the past have at "times" had trouble with hollywood fund-raisers, celebrity fund-raisers. this was a joke. and chris is exactly right. we're clear what speaker gingrich is doing here. and i think that the republican party in general, whoever the nominee ends up being most likely to mitt romney they need to have a frame on the president if they have a chance to win that involves something serious. >> thank you very much. mark and chris. but it is serious because illinois is voting. that is what's serious. the...