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Go, joe. let them vote no. when stupak came aboard, what was clear last night was he was looking for some way and him and the other six or seven to get aboard. >> mark and i are having a debate here on whether this is good for the democratic party this fall or not. as a democrat, would you want to run, outside of mark hallpret's district? >> well, that's my district, too. mark and i live on the upper west side. would you want to carry this bill and nancy pelosi's stimulus plan and the auto bailout and everything around with you on your shoulders? >> the only thing anyone is going to want to ca...

This over the top. they can't go home with this. what they are saying is they can't go home with what is supposed to be one of the best things the democrats have done since medicare and civil rights. that tells you what a profoundly unpopular bill this is in at least half the country. >> and more than half the country, but mark, the president had two problems. he had a base that was discounselored because he wasn't efficiently being progressive enough, and he had independents and conservatives that left him a long time ago. this does help him with his base. it fires up the base. >> it does, bu...

Know of, and it is hard to imagine any major piece of legislation being passed before november. >> mark halipert, this is so out of control. i always make fun of harold ford for his three points because anybody who grew up in a southern baptist church, a preacher will have three points. it doesn't matter what he is talking about, or she. well n a southern baptist church, i'm not so sure. lesley had four. you have 12. give me your two big points. >> about how he did it? >> yeah. >> i think second-guessing on the legislative strategy now is, with all due respect, they don't understand it. he pas...