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>> a good thing to talk about this redemption issue because mark hallpren, remember him. i say case to case, there were accusations he would rub his hard-on to others in the office and then he would ask them out and he denied and al franken, and he said many times, i don't think he did that, but it depends. we need a court, like a redemption court, because like mike hallpern, he has been gone two years and now he has a book out and democratic strategists are having to back pedal, people are saying why are you in his book, mark hallpern, and i'm asking, who decides, what does he, does he never ...

. good morning. welcome to "morning joe" on this thursday, july 20th. today is the six month mark of the trump presidency and in true trump fashion, he just gave an interview that is taking all the attention away from his agenda. with us, we have veteran columnist and ms nbc contributor mike barnical, co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehi and ms nbc mark halperin, columnist at the washington examiner, kristen anderson and one of the new york time's report worries conduct thad interview with the president michael schmidt. joe, we're going to get to that in just a moment. but first the news...

Think republicans are going to have the courage of their conviction? congressional leaders and the white house to explain why the tax changes are not just what they want but better for the country? >> so, we reported yesterday in today's paper that conservative groups led by the kochs and their freedom partners and the american action network, a separate group, are going to be launching a push that could eventually involve tens of millions of dollars to rally people around tax reform. now, i think that's all well and good. however, there are still a lot of differences in the republican party t...

Least marginal improvement in their income. that's not a bad place for him to do. to do health care and get nothing done and now make tax reform even harder, waste of time. >> yeah, but mark, we early on, mark, not only did we say it around this set, but there were a lot of people in washington, a lot of conservatives going to donald trump, and telling him, don't start with health care reform. it killed the democrats, governing majority. it hurt hillary clinton and bill clinton in 1993. start with tax reform. do an infrastructure bill. do education reform. they got these warnings from everybod...

Trying to convince his base that bob mueller is somehow biassed. he's a republican, by the way, and that you shouldn't believe anything that comes out of them. it's an unprecedented attack on the rule of law in this country but the president of the united states. and i think -- i don't think it's a coincidence that this latest attack came the day after we found out that bob mueller is looking at that meeting that don junior held. i think his anger has been simmering and at times it boils over, and it boiled over yesterday after he saw it's getting close to his family. >> and how fascinating th...