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Soon. other big news out of today, huge, major blow to public-sector labor unions, we will tell you what it means, would have been our headline without this retirement, the plaintiffs in the case it made history, mark janice is with us live. catherine harris will join us shauna on capitol hill for the closed-door meeting and developments tonight.
Expense. i don't know exactly what that means jacob but clearly you regard this as a first amendment case. >> that's exactly what this is about. under the first amendment, we all have the right to choose what is political speech. we will and won't support in our money. with our money. and what groups we will and won't associate with. yet, the government in 22 states is forcing people to give part of every paycheck to a union, which is a political advocacy group just to keep their jobs. steve: mark, if the supreme court rules in your favor, what's that going to do to our government unions? >> w...
Yesterday with the supreme court. >> it went well. we made our case, we had justices who expressed understanding of our position it seems. and we're hopeful. we are optimistic that the supreme court is going to restore workers' right to choose and say clearly when you take a government job you don't have to check your first amendment rights at the door. steve: all right. mark, i know it's been a long arduous task. has it been worth it. >> i think so, yeah. even though my cas my name is on the case and i'm the lead plaintiff. someone has to do it. you know, standing um for my principles but als...
>> good morning. steve: mark, why did you decide you had to sue the union? >> well, because in my first paycheck had a line item deduction that said union dues, and i never signed up for the union, never signed a pledge card and here was this deduction. no one asked me if i wanted to join. no one told me anything about it. yet, i was being charged this fee. steve: so really what you are looking for is you want the choice. >> exactly. that's the whole crux of this case is freedom under my first amendment rights freedom of speech and freedom of association and the fact i was not given a choice. ...
Mike tobin with an update live from chicago. mike? >> three state employees in illinois are suing for the option of not paying union dues. mark janice is one of them. he opted out of union. but even nonunion members are being lobbied to pay fair share due. >> if they give us the autonomy to make decisions within our jobs why can't we make that same decisions about joining the union? >> the argument is that unions are political by their very nature. therefore, an employee cannot be forced to support political activity. the counterargument from the unions is that employees, like janus, result fr...