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What will happen is instead something a bit more kind of a full invasion of ukraine could take place. so we're looking very carefully at the situation, a lot of tensions that are happening at the moment. allegations and counter allegations of artillery exchanges and cease-fire violations across the line of control between government forces and rebel forces and so we are waiting, as is kyiv, very nervously right now about what the next step will be. kristin? >> matthew, thank you. joining me now is retired army brigadier general mark kemt, thank you for being with us. i want to start by talking...

Conversations have been over the course of the last couple weeks happening on an every two to three day basis. >> all right. gentlemen, thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to bring in retired army brigadier general mark kemt the former assistant secretary of state for political military affairs. thank you, general. appreciate it. good to see you. i wish it was under different circumstances we were speaking to each other once again. tonight we have this dramatic video of ukrainian workers at the nuclear power plant telling the russians to stop shooting. >> you guys are endangering the ...