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>> in china. carmakers are calling 75,000 of those paying off drivers. what about 8 million other drivers every r the next guest one of the lead lawyers to settled the nearly $5 billion vioxx case it trying to take the is trying to take the lead in the toyota suits. >> the company has your name. mark is on the phone, that is a nightmare scenario. >> everybody knows where to find you. >> from the vioxx deal, how does it work because your history should be i was the guy behind getting the settlements on this so you should be in like flynn on this? >> not necessarily. a lot of people worked hard ...

It's intimidating for the big companies. think of people like me and millions of entrepreneurs who are getting the fallout from this. they're scared to death. that means when they're scared to death, they don't hire people. they don't expand. they cut their costs because they don't know where this will end up. >> neil: all right, fran tarkington, nice to see you've done something with your life since the football days. always a pleasure. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. >> the hall of famer. very savvy businessman. a case of pay to play or coincidence? they voted question on healthca...

Compensation. >> neil: punitive damages. >> you have to show a malicious conduct by toyota. >> neil: do you think there was malicious conduct by toyota. >> i do. >> you think you can prove that? >> i think we'll be able to. we called "fox business" -- >> which if you don't get, you should demand. >> absolutely. we called it on stuart varney's >> absolutely. varney's it on stuart vascular show and said it was an electronic problem. they started giving more it -- >> neil: i thought they dis avowed that. they always denied that. what if they accidentally realized that and said mark's right, this ...

Got split up between 2,000 lawyers. what you are getting. >> neil: to be fair, mark, you are not on food stamps here. >> no, you try to make your money back. >> neil: understood. i look at this sort of situation and i'm getting of -- remember a lot of folks are claiming my car is accelerating out of control and accelerated out of control and turns out it is just a fake. not all like that. but a number are coming to what do you make of that and light like that. what do you make of that and whether it hurts a case like you would like to present, a >> first of all this is the kind of case that's ...

Compensate people for the necklace. malicious intent or reckless disregard for the rights of others. >> neil: what do you drive? >> a chevy, a suburban. >> neil: have you ever driven a >> neil: have you drive and toyota? >> no. >> neil: do you know people who drive toyotas? >> i had to take one away from my daughter. >> neil: because of in? >> yeah. >> neil: so you don't think toyota's prior record, which is pretty high on jd power and safety surveys was out of line? >> i am beginning to think it was. >> neil: what did you give her >> neil: what did you give your daughter when she took the rav...