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You are in arizona. did mccain have anything to say about any of this? >> i am in phoenix. i talked to an advisor to senator mccain just a few moments ago, and he said the senator will not have any comment on this at least at this point right now. you know this really is the old political adage if someone is digging himself a hole why help him out of it. there's no love lost between john mccain and donald trump. they have been going back and forth a little bit with some other comments not quite this incendiary. senator mccain is not going to have anything to say on this. mark's right, every re...

V.a. scandal proves politicians are inept. joining us now, cnn politics executive editor mark preston. cnn political analyst ben ferguson and senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny. mark let's start with you. we saw trump surge in the polls after he made comments criticizing mexican immigrants calling them rapists. has he gone too far with this comment? >> you have to ask yourself has the donald trump schtik run its course. today with these comments about john mccain, it very well might have. i have to tell you, while there was some applause and snickering and laughter during that comment...

You can say what you want. i know you like him and i like him, too, rick perry, did he a lousy job on the border. what a horrible job he did. worse than him is jeb bush. jeb bush is a disaster in so many different ways. i have to see, shawn, who wins. >> mark let's dig into this a little bit. donald trump is going to be on that stage. there is no way fox keeps him off the stage. front page of the times, there is a joint talking about trump as potential problem now but also maybe a third party candidate down the road. do you think there is any truth to him running as a third party candidate? >>...

I think herve to takeeverybody had to take a step back and say i have to look at this different. now the policies the devil and pun intended is going to be in the details. >> that's right. the flag again comes down at 10:00 this morning in columbia south carolina. we'll obviously have that for you live here on msnbc. let's move to politics now. former president bill clinton and george w. bush shared a stage as we showed you a minute ago in dallas last night. they were on the campus of southern methodist university for the graduation of their presidential leadership scholars. the two discussed ...

Mark let's start off here with the new e-mails released by the state department. >> well and tamron when you end up looking at most of the e-mails from the state department last night, as my colleague put it last night, it almost looked like something out of "veep." there were a lot of e-mails about hillary clinton where she and her staff were going to get takeout. another one was working on the fax machine. another e-mail came to the conclusion, am i being included in this cabinet meeting? those were some of the big revelations. the associated press seized on david axelrod's e-mail to hillary...