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$500 million as hillary clinton did using what i would agree is loopholes in order to allow for big money donors to donate directly to the party as opposed to individual presidential candidat candidates. what i think is being conflated, hillary clinton's money she raised -- >> you don't think any of that influence would translate into votes? >> i don't think dnc has that much influence to rig 50 elections and caucuses and many went into caucuses that hillary clinton lost. i think bottom line is that the democratic party needs to recalibrate its message as opposed to relitigating an election. t...

National committee did meant this election was rigged? >> i think it was. >> do you think the clinton campaign or hillary clinton owes bernie sanders an apology? >> for me, this is about what democrats are going to do right this minute. what are we going to do going forward. >> brazil's book didn't say it was rigged but senator warren has said it at least twice on television that she believes it's rigged. mark, what's your reaction? >> my reaction, what was done in the article adds more details to what we already knew. the clinton campaign had a heavy hand if not outright control of the dnc. d...

Of his former campaign chairman paul manafort and says the dnc shouldn't play favors and this is a lot different than conspireing with russia. joining us now in the newsroom, director of progressive programmer for sir yus xm and progressive media for the clinton campaign and mark long barr, former senior adviser to the bernie sanders campaign, the liaison to the dnc through the campaign. mark, i hope i got your name right. >> it was good enough. >> good enough. okay. senator warren said this is a lot different than colluding with russia but she was pretty harsh about what this means for the dn...