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Reporters there. what will he say when he's caught off guard? i think that will be far more illustrative and far more instructive. kasie. >> and we should note of course, jeff, the permit that was given to mr. kessler was for upwards of 400 people. he showed up with just two dozen. jeff bennett, thanks very much for your reporting. we'll be checking back in with you tonight. >> sure. >> meanwhile i want to welcome in my panel with me on set, former rnc chairman and political analyst, michael steele. whouts reporter for l.a. times and nbc political analyst eli stokols. polster and msnbc politic...

Spray, whether it's a south lawn scrum, whether -- he's going to do an event tomorrow. there will be some press pool reporters there. what will he say when he's caught off guard? i think that will be far more illustrative and far more instructive. kasie. >> and we should note of course, jeff, the permit that was given to mr. kessler was for upwards of 400 people. he showed up with just two dozen. jeff bennett, thanks very much for your reporting. we'll be checking back in with you tonight. >> sure. >> meanwhile i want to welcome in my panel with me on set, former rnc chairman and political ana...

Presumably that would come from it. there was no consideration given to the poison that would infect the body politic within the gop, that here we are now some 50 years later having to deal with a president, a republican president who, to the point that was just made, gives countenance to it, that gives room to that. so, the party has to now, irrespective of the president, the party has to account for this because i don't know how we go into a black community, into an hispanic community and say, come, join us, be a part of us. it's not justify to say you're conservative, not enough to say you ...

>> of course, today was also a day of mourning in charlottesville. heather heyer was killed one year ago today after a man drove his car through a crowd of counter protesters during last year's white nationalist rally. she was just 32 years old and her mother, who you saw there, was -- laid flowers today on the makeshift memorial and two state troopers were killed as they tried to keep the peace in the streets of charlottesville. mark morial, i want to ask you. we talked a lot about how damaging this resurgence of white nationalism and white supremacy is to our national conversation, but the...

And the fact that he still can't do that, that to me is the lesson that every american should take from what we see this weekend. >> mark morial, to michael steele's point, the president is not out front leading on this tonight. >> the rally by the unite the right group is an absolute flop, a failure, a poor showing. 30 people and all of this anticipation, all of this mobilization, all of the public resources spent by the city of washington and the federal government and the taxpayers for 30 people to show up. but secondly, this was an opportunity for the president to make a forceful unequivoc...