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Sure that they're doing it right, make sure that they're executing that vision. so, that's why the same kind of management difficulties seem to follow hillary clinton around wherever she goes. >> susan, look, what's funny here is had they won, infighting against turned into oh, they had spirited debates. when you lose -- >> a team of rivals. >> when you lose it becomes everybody disagreed. sometimes a lot of stuff can get lost. >> if you win you're brilliant, if you lose you're an idiot. that's not true, but that's how things -- in either case. but that's how it looks. the book, even if they q...

They've shut down the federal government. >> i talked to the president earlier tonight. i'm not going to negotiate. >> none of us want to be in a shutdown and we're here to say to the senate democrats, come and talk to us. >> it's the tea party shutdown of government. >> my goodness, they won't even sit down and have a discussion about this. >> speaker boehner and house republicans are engaging in silly empty political stunts. >> right now, hundreds of thousands of americans hard working americans, suddenly aren't receiving their paycheck. >> joining me now live, senior editor mark murry, let'...

Boarder security? do we know what they are massaging as far as language is concerning right now. >> all of the language is dotting i's, crossing t's. what we do know is that senate judiciary committee, pat lachey, there will be more a week from today and the mark-up legislation would be may 6. so incremental progress, the senate moves slower than other bodies but that's what we have right new. >> it is interesting, mark. several cities will see a similar site. maybe not as many people but passionate voices who want immigration reform. what was it like seven years ago or longer that we saw rall...

But we're there. mark murry, you and the team point out that some of the language, some of the details that need massaging have a lot to do with republican senator marco rubio. >> well, he has played a very big role in this whole legislation. and his primary goal from the get-go has been to win over conservatives. also people in the conservative media to get them on board of comprehensive immigration reform. at the outset, tamron, you mentioned that it looks like comprehensive immigration reform aep the gang of eight legislation could be introduced as early as tomorrow. i'm hearing from my col...

Tomorrow night will be the first time that president obama and mitt romney have shared the same stage since primary debates in manchester, new hampshire, in january of 2008. joining me now is ra mash panuru and mark murry. is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the