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Their attitude was to make sure we're not preyed upon, we have to be as dangerous or more dangerous than the other guys. that the retribution will be swift, it will be sure, and it will be violent and, therefore, you get a standoff. so some groups will, well, we're not going to mess with these guys because we know what they're willing to do. because there are other prison gangs that are just about as dangerous, maybe not as well organized on the outside, but there are mexican and black prison gangs. that's the reason they form the aryan brotherhood to protect themselves against the other gangs...

Supremacist prison gang, the aryan brotherhood of texas. kaufman county d.a. mike mclelland's office brought indictments against 34 members of that group in november. late last year the department of public safety issued a warning to law enforcement people about retribution from the group. this week a federal prosecutor involved in prosecuting that case sent e-mails to defense attorneys of the aryan brothers announcing he was withdrawing from the case from, quote, security reasons. so what do we know about the aryan brotherhood of texas? and how much of a threat do they pose? mark podok is our...

Dangerous than the other guys. that the retribution will be swift, it will be sure, and it will be violent and, therefore, you get a standoff. so some groups will, well, we're not going to mess with these guys because we know what they're willing to do. because there are other prison gangs that are just about as dangerous, maybe not as well organized on the outside, but there are mexican and black prison gangs. that's the reason they form the aryan brotherhood to protect themselves against the other gangs. >> i get that part. let me go outside, mark, a prosecutor. we've grown up in a country, ...

Mclelland's office brought indictments against 34 members of that group in november. late last year the department of public safety issued a warning to law enforcement people about retribution from the group. this week a federal prosecutor involved in prosecuting that case sent e-mails to defense attorneys of the aryan brothers announcing he was withdrawing from the case from, quote, security reasons. so what do we know about the aryan brotherhood of texas? and how much of a threat do they pose? mark podok is our ex-p pepert h. senior fellow at the poverty law center. we're joined by phone by ...

Dangerous to them? >> it comes from the culture in prison. their attitude was to make sure we're not preyed upon, we have to be as dangerous or more dangerous than the other guys. that the retribution will be swift, it will be sure, and it will be violent and, therefore, you get a standoff. so some groups will, well, we're not going to mess with these guys because we know what they're willing to do. because there are other prison gangs that are just about as dangerous, maybe not as well organized on the outside, but there are mexican and black prison gangs. that's the reason they form the arya...