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Carried hamilton county, which is cincinnati, being the first democrat to do that in more than a generation. we're talking about lack ka wan na county in pennsylvania, and scranton. they're not looking anywhere near that in 2012. in michigan, in wisconsin, you know, it's really just sticking it in the eye of catholics. saying what you believe, what your creed is, what your mission is is unimportant, and that you must swallow that or stop doing what you -- what defined you as a catholic church. >> it sounds like david axelrod is interested in getting a compromise. mark, welcome to the world of ...

Support, but forcing religious institutions, catholic institutions to provide it does not have majority support. that gets only 49% support of all americans, 46% oppose it. actually, more catholics support it than the general population do. when you say catholic voters only 45% of catholic voters support that, and there is the political problem going into this re-election, isn't it, mark? when you take a position that is only supported and it's a very close-cut thing, only supported by at most 49% of the population, highly controversial, that seems to be a very risky proposition to be taking i...

Does that absolutely remain the case, no reconsideration? >> it does, but i think it is important to remember what was clearly stated when this policy decision was announced, and that is that we will be working with those organizations and individuals who have concerns about the implementation of this rule. >> ten years before msnbc even existed, the lone voice of the left on american television was mark sheels who has been participating in a left/right dialogue on pbs's "news hour" since 1987. before becoming a nationally syndicated columnist, he was a political operative for two of the great...

We're out of time for the segment. jane mayer for the new yorker. thank you both for joining us tonight. >> great to be with you. >> coming up, the man who's been arguing the liberal angle on television longer than of us doesn't like the obama administration's position on requiring religious employers to provide contraception coverage in their employees' health plans. mark sheels joins me now. later, how the susan g. komen foundation can begin to fix its image problem with one simple strategy. the truth. they haven't tried that yet. that's in the rewrite. and later, the couple who forced cal's...

Contraception coverage in their health care plans for their employees. my next guest, who's been a liberal democrat longer than most of you have, thinks the president has made a big mistake. mark sheels will join us next to tell us why. the susan g. komen foundation may now be trying to do the right thing, but it's still not coming close to try to tell the truth. that's in tonight's rewrite. and later, the couple who went to court in california to challenge proposition 8, which has now been declared unconstitutional. that's thanks to them.