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Shoulder these -- i assume he's saying, the hike in gas prices. he's saying, we gave money back to them to make it easier on them. >> there is no surprise. once we saw the middle east start to change, to alter, we knew that gas would go up. martha: i hear you. i'm questioning the political spin here. >> there is no spin. that's what i'm trying to say. what we're trying to do -- at some point, you have to take your medicine. >> there you go. martha: mark, back to you. >> rob is exposing the liberal view, you have to take your medicine. energy secretary in 2008 said we need to get gasoline up to...

The president, at least. let's bring in rob thompson and mark teeson. is the president saying, mark, because they allowed the bush tax cuts to be extended, which keeps everybody paying the rate they were paying, that they would help people out with the inclose in gas prices? >> exactly right. the tax cuts he's trying to take credit for are the bush tax cuts. if anyone put more money in the hands of american taxpayers is george w. bush. obama is trying to take credit for not raising taxes. so in obama world, if he doesn't raise taxes, he's putting more money in your pocket. that's not how any a...

I don't know how they can feel they did a good job handling that? >> absolutely. whatever the verdict is, we should look at san francisco and say guilty. you protected this guy and you protect people like him. don't cooperate with federal authorities. whatever your position is on illegal immigrants, whether you think they should get citizenship or be deported, all of us should agree that people like this killer should not be in the united states. we don't want criminals with 7 felony convictions to stay in the united states. it doesn't matter what your position is on immigration. >> martha: it...

>> why can't your administration see the restrictions you are putting for making it harder for me to have a gun is making my kids and i less safe. >> there is nothing we propose that would make it harder for you to purchase a firearm. >> and there in lies the rub. the president says his doubters don't believe that. and there was powerful testimonials there tonight, mark. i will start with you. the importance of guns to people's lives as well as damage guns have done. >> absolutely. i mean, president obama finally got to meet some of the americans who cling to guns for the first time in his pre...

Silent on it and the president wanted to try to regulate an area of congressional silence, there is some authority and constitutional jurisprudence that would let him weigh in there. but he wasn't silent. what he failed to say at the town hall meeting is that congress rejected it three times. he cannot overcome the will of congress by rewriting the law. then he is a prince rather than a president. >> judge, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> joining us now with more, mark teeson. former speechwriter to former president bush. guys, thank you o both for being here. i thought it was a very thoughtf...