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circumstances change. it essentially puts the carbon tax beyond democratic accountability, doesn't it? >> well, representative francis rooney who is the lead republican sponsor from florida says that he likes this bill because it's market-based. it actually let's the market determine how we get to the new energy economy. i think that's a lot of what mr. fitzpatrick one of the republicans on the bill also said is you put a fee on carbon based emissions. you give the money back to households so the government doesn't pick what to do with it you don't pick winners and losers up to you and i to...

Station if you don't like it. it essentially puts the carbon tax beyond democratic accountability, doesn't it? >> well the lead republican sponsor says that he likes this bill because it's market-based. it actually lets the market determine how we get to the new energy economy. i think that's a lot of what mr. fitzpatricfitzpatrick, one republicans on the bill, said. you give money back to household so the government doesn't pick what to do with it. it's up for us to determine what to do with the dividends. but it'll be a free-market bill. >> what do you make of the competitive enterprise inst...

Difficulties and ways to streamline this until you're blue in the face, wolf. but we need to be streamlining this and it needs to be market-based. it's 2017. we really can achieve that. >> so you're obviously critical of this significant shift in legal immigration. let's talk about what we just heard from michelle kosinski over at the state department, secretary tillerson has not yet spent or even requested the millions of dollars set aside to stop terrorist propaganda, russian propaganda, russian disinformation. do you agree with senator lindsey graham who questions why the trump administrati...

Happen? but it might be something like that, a game-changer that will be the only way to get these two sides to figure out a way to compromise. >> even with this -- and i think scott said this, it's not a done deal? >> not even close. >> they're trying to keep the patient alive. >> i want to make two points. the second one will be based on what margaret said about it being market-based. i think this gets ignored or not talked about on tv. i think -- and i want to say to the tv, all the credit to this, and the reason we're here about defeating this bill that will put millions of people off heal...

You say let's go back to and market based, but you can't point to examples of success. what was going on before was not working that well. where do you have a market based health insurance system that works well? >> you have it in dentistry and in plastic surgery, if i can jump in you have it anywhere where the consumer has more skin in the game than a third party payer. dentist rates have stayed very low, plastic surgery also. >> but plastic surgery is elective. >> it's still market based, though. one other thing that i wanted to mention, i was talking to dave hoppe about it, during the contr...