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About 800 points on the dow. Youre still looking at a loss of greater than 5 a huge story today the crude oil crush as the saudis initiate a price war. We should think about it in terms of the speed and velocity of decline the s p the is down about 17 . We hear about the news with are the russians and saudi arabia. The problem i have is you have a very healthy patient being the market now it appears to be in intensive care we dont seem to have any doctors around to treat them in intense iive care negative rates are present in the uk, first time ever. We are battling here in the United States with the potential for negative rates the missing link in all of this which is what we saw in 2008 was a global coordinated effort. There does not seem to be a globally coordinating effort to address that i think thats what the market is riding against. Liz young, what do you see . Lets start with the globally coordinated effort i think theres been an effort from Central Banks thats been reasonably

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