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And he didn't miss an opportunity to hit on one of his favorite new targets, marrow rubio. here he was talking about rubio's financial past. >> marco rubio has a disaster on his finances, his credit cards. when you check his credit cards, take a look at what he's done with the republican party when he had access, what he had to put back in and whether or not something should have happened. >> rubio dismissed the attacks calling them inaccurate. >> every expense on that card is detailed in the republican party accounts that they file every month with the reports that they have to file with the ...

He's part of the -- sort of he has the blessings of the old political establishment. >> this is just surface stuff that's like lipstick on a pig. the bottom line is the republicans have a core values problem, not a who knows who tupac is. >> the tupac problem. molly, he's modern, know who is tupac is. i can't imagine that marco rubio and i get what she was saying, the second thing on the resume of why he's a player. >> well, i don't think it can hurt, right? but i think two good points made in that segment which is that first of all marrow rubio has a lot of appealing qualities and the -- i do...

Marrow rubio says his role model in the u.s. senate is jesse helms. rubio adds, "politicians are not hero, but if you look at jesse helm, he had a tremendous amount of influence in this place. ." let's remember the way senator helms used his influence, he was a ow-- poe nents of the civil rights acts. he fought funding for aids research for years before rehenting because he said it resulted from what he called unnatural behavior. in his 1990 re-election race against a black owe poe hent this, helms ran a blatantly racist itv ad. and he was tough on castro. senator rub i don't sees him as a jus...

Potential voters out there. >> and the problem is compounded by the fact there's no clear path. kelly o'donnell, i want to go to you. you just had an exchange are marrow rubio at the iowa state fair about immigration. what happened? >> good to be with you, luke. we talked with marrow aruco rub he did that and paid a price with conservatives and now, that issue is at the forefront again. i talked to marco rubio about the issue of birthright citizenship. is it so sacred that it cannot change? >> i personally don't think we need to change it. i'm open to changes that allow us to prevent people fr...