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I'll always been a believer in mars. i would choose i will call the jfk mars direct express. laura: all right, so what do you think? should we go back to the moon or focus on mars? >> well first of all, thank you for having me and yes, we both from northern california so that is great. but no, i think neil armstrong is correct. i think there's a lot of challenges for us to embark upon going to mars directly. a lot of technical challenges, and a lot of human health concerns. i think going back to the moon, establishing a long-duration base it could be a test bed to prove all of these new techno...

>> we talk about it again, you know, there's an attempt to sort of restart the whole space program with using the moon as a launching pad. and i've always thought that it just seemed odd having done that and achieve that that we're going back to that. i get the strategy that's a launching point for bigger and better missions. what do you think of that. >> 27 years ago i wrote a book, a whole boring book on mission to mars and i've always been a believer in mars. i would choose a direct, i would call it the jfk mars direct express, is what i would call it. i would name it after president kenned...