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Step? >> well, i called the president after that tweet, and i asked him, hey, i want to make sure we're all in agreement here, and he said, absolutely. he said, look, we want to talk about mars. mars is that generational kind of idea. he said, i know you have to go to moon to get to mars. nothing has changed. space policy directive one is today as it has been. he wants to make sure that as an agency we're also making sure we're not missing the forest for the trees. the moon is the proving ground and mars is the destination. kristin: and after that tweet from president trump, again, just a few ...

About where nasa should to go next, the moon or mars. and even president trump seems on the fence about where exactly nasa should go next. so i asked the vice president yesterday if president trump is really onboard with this plan to go to moon first and then mars. here's what he said. >> you bet. 100%. kristin: okay. >> space policy directive one that the president signed shortly after restarting the national space council really committed the united states to return to to the moon and then go to mars. kristin: no chance that we're going to start down this road and president trump is going to...

Thoughts. >> to get to the mars you have to land on the moon they say. any way of going directly without landing on the moon? >> well, we will use the moon as a proving ground. when we go to mars, we will have to be there for a long period of time. we have to learn to live and work on another planet. >> how long the trip to mars? >> 7 month journey there. the challenge is earth and mars are only the same side of the sun once every 26 months. >> what do you think? >> we come back and try again. >> yes. how do you feel about it? >> mars direct. >> you like it direct? >> yes. >> it seems to me ma...

That was one of the questions. so i think the current plan has been well-thought out. i just disagree with it. i think we ought to shoot directly for planet mars. i used to joke when i came back from apollo 11 that i had been sent to the wrong planet. that's that should be renamed the national aeronautics and mars administration. i even wrote a whole boring book on the mission to mars. i've always been a believer in mars. i would choose -- i would call it the j.f.k. mars direct express is what i would call it. i would name it after president kennedy because he was such a wonderful guide for us...