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I know you wanted the zimmerman parents -- george zimmerman's parents to be able to be in the courtroom. they won't be until they have testified. >> this is a tragedy for both families. i said that since the first day you and i talked. and if they need to leave the courtroom i'm fine. what i don't want is any type of maneuver or show boating or something that would suggest to try to impact on that jury. as long as they stay away from negative impact on the jury, both the martin side and the zimmerman side, then we'll have a good, just verdict based on the evidence. >> it's probably too early t...

Does that concern you? i know you wanted the zimmerman parents -- george zimmerman's parents to be able to be in the courtroom. they won't be until they have testified. >> this is a tragedy for both families. i've said that since literally the first day you and i talked. and if they need to leave the courtroom i'm fine. what i don't want is any type of maneuver or show boating or something that would suggest to try to impact on that jury. as long as they stay away from negative impact on the jury, both the martin side and the zimmerman side, then we'll have a good, just verdict based on the ev...

Martin's family has a right to be in the courtroom, and as long as they act appropriately, that they should stay there. obviously, there are things that we do that are somewhat insensitive to a family that has lost a loved one, and if they need to leave the courtroom because of that, i'm fine. what i don't want is any type of maneuver or show boating or something that would suggest to try to impact on that jury. as long as they stay away from negative impact on the jury, both the martin side and the zimmerman side, we'll have a good, just verdict based only on the evidence. >> it's probably to...

>> because of what the fear and the panic and the life-threatening situation does to you, it changes everything. there's nothing predictable. a 50-year-old man can sound like a 14-year-old girl. there are family and friends of george zimmerman, co-workers, who listened to the recording, either on -- when it was played in the media or elsewhere, who said that's george zimmerman screaming for help. >> that's one of the big things that's going to come down to. who do you think that is on the tape? >> yeah. it's going to be -- >> because the expert testimony's been -- >> it's almost a wash because...

Senators who want to be candidates for the higher office who'd like to get something through like marco rubio, obviously, that is tough enough but allows them to look basically progressive on immigration. >> the ted cruz side, the republicans, jeff sessions, those guys who are standing in the way, they know it's just going to run right over them. right? >> i think they know that. and i think people -- like we can look to history and go back to '07 because it's instructive. you had senator cornyn make a lot of noise back then. they put concessions in the bill for him and then he ultimately vote...