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Victim of spousal abuse, some other catastrophic. >> if your dog rap away, it's too hard. >> you know, let me give you the flaw in your logic. you can apply for a hardship exemption, doesn't mean you are going to get it. in massachusetts. >> they had to investigate all the hardship exemptions. the irs is going to fan out. 320 million people and say where is your dog? come on, juan. >> this is a fantasy because, in the massachusetts example, which is there, concrete, been there for seven years, less than one half of 1% had anything to do with like a hardship exemption. this is a fantasy by peop...

Victim of spousal abuse, some other catastrophic. >> if your dog rap away, it's too hard. >> you know, let me give you the flaw in your logic. you can apply for a hardship exemption, doesn't mean you are going to get it. in massachusetts. >> they had to investigate all the hardship exemptions. the irs is going to fan out. 320 million people and say where is your dog? come on, juan. >> this is a fantasy because, in the massachusetts example, which is there, concrete, been there for seven years, less than one half of 1% had anything to do with like a hardship exemption. this is a fantasy by peop...

Because they have to be brought up to speed first on what happened and how they did it before they can come up with solutions. this may be a couple months. coming out every day would not be good for the president. so i think he needs to say something, we're on this, he a appointed somebody. that guy can do briefings every day for the tech press. look like he's cracking the whip periodically. >> joy, i guess i just wonder, can this get resolved without a delay in the individual mandate, and can the white house -- how do they negotiate the politics of that? >> of course. listen, i think people a...