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Seriously. it doesn't really accomplish anything in the real world. >> professor west, let me play whoopi's original comments, again, and then we will have our conversation. here it is. >> if you are going to do this, then let's be truthful about it because the holocaust isn't about race. >> no. >> no. it's not about race. >> ethnicity. >> it's about -- >> but it's -- it's not about race. it's not about race. >> what is it about? >> because you -- it's about man's inhumanity to man. that's what it's about. >> so, the lesson here is that the holocaust was about race. maybe not in the definition...

When black americans are still dealing with the legacy of jim crow and enslavement and systemic oppression. and yet race is a social construct. and it shows up differently in different societies. and so, again, if we look back to germany, the nazis believe that they were the master race and jews were a subhuman race. >> jews an inferior race. that's what they believed. >> and they waged a wore of extermination against the jewish people because of this belief in race. that's undeniable. it's what happened. >> i want to get through a lot here. and i don't want to be rude. but i just want to get ...

Ovens and gassing them to death. they based that on nazis being a master race where they had to eliminate jews. the nazis saw jews as a race and, therefore, that is what the holocaust was about. however, whoopi goldberg -- and i'm with joe scarborough and sean hannity on this -- she apologized. she said, i stand corrected. it was a learning moment that she turned into something the next day on her show where they talked about it and, hopefully, educated more people. howard: well, let me -- >> i look at this -- howard: let me come back to this, i want to get to jason, and we'll move on to the q...

An easy decision. you all know this because you do it on a daily basis. trying to discuss very complex issues in five-minute segments on unscripted live tv with five women all trying to bring in their opinion and their perspective can sometimes be very difficult and sometimes things don't come out right. two things i know for sure. i know for sure the holocaust is all about race because hitler thought he wanted to build a master race, an aryan race, and jews and gays and many other groups he did not deem fit to be participe of his master race. i know for sure the holocaust is about race. i kno...

Love, happiness very laissez faire. do you think that what she said she talked about the evil of the holocaust. do you think the comment about it not dealing with race, do you believeat that it wasg her misspeaking or maybe doesn't really know aboutorayber understand naziism and the master race, et cetera? you know, whatever in her heart is in her heart, but she's allowed to speak her mind into a microphone because that's the job we gave her . keep in mind all these people have a job. their job is to give their opinions every single day, all day you have that job. i have that job. there's g no...