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>> exactly. panic inducing. >> people don't realize so many people are talking, you're like which way do i go? >> thank you, don. >> it was a great special and we'll discuss it at length a little later on in this show. but donald trump was in front of a crowd tonight, probably his favorite place to be, while the current president barack obama gave his final national security speech. could the tone and the style, van, of each man be more different? >> no. i thought we were going to play a clip. no. and that's the most amazing thing that we've seen. we're supposed to have one president at a time...

Speech. could the tone of each man be any different? >> no. we have to play a clip. no. i mean -- and now that's the most amazing thing you've seen is that we're supposed to have one president at a time, by the way. president obama is still the president of the united states, by the way. he's supposed to be able to complete what he's doing. instead you've got the master showman stealing the spotlight over and over again, but they couldn't be any more different in their style or their approaches. the showmanship of trump and the style of obama is hard to digest in the next news hour. >> somethi...

Deliberately. the country is going in a different direction. it is going to be very different. i think this is going to be a terrific thing to watch unfold. chemistry i think is very important with him. he said about mitt romney that he had great chemistry. >> and loyalty. >> and loyalty. right. and i think those two things plus the background of knowledge for a particular field -- >> van, how do you see the transition as it's been going so far? again, the idea that this potentially as the list of secretary of states has actually grown whether that be true or not. >> master showman. listen, wh...

>> right, right. there are similarities. >> we've heard donald trump use the term, "the finalists." >> we've talked many times about the unconventional nature about what we have seen unfold as a campaign, a candidate. we've been electing people who were politicians, sort of traditional types, et cetera. we have not done this here quite deliberately. the country is going in a different direction. it is going to be very different. i think this is going to be a terrific thing to watch unfold. chemistry i think is very important with him. he said about mitt romney that he had great chemistry. >> a...

Valley. >> you've identified that as one of the important things. >> right. you're sending a message to this constituency that voted for you that i can do things, i can take action. and that, to me -- one of the things that fdr was heralded for was his first 100 days where it was action, action, action. this is what donald trump is all about. as i've said many times here, you can't possibly build the kind of business he's built without taking action. you just don't sit there and think about things. you do things. that's his m.o. here and he just showed it. democrats need to learn from this, no...