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Partnership through all of this. i mean they were an extraordinarily close -- they were extraordinarily close with each other and in the way they fed off of each other, the way they intersecretaried ted with r in their business dealings. it was an extremely interest mat father/son relationship, and fred trump was every bit a supporting player in building the kind of ethos of donald trump as self-made billionaire. you know, he really -- you know, even though he knew, he absolutely knew that donald trump, especially in the early years, was simply appropriating all of fred trump's wealth as if it...