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I think that the cia is going to figure out a way to get there, but it's not going to be the same and we won't have military bases and we won't have the leverage to extract our people. and i don't think the taliban needs our money. they have china, russia, pakistan, they have had a relationship with iran that has provided them with material assistance. we are in a bad place. we have somema leverage. we had all of that. and that was our leverage. if we had evacuated civilians and at that time, we would be fine, but we reversed it and said -- and that is the key takeaways. president joe biden re...

In this country. right. when the us national security adviser, jake sullivan, was asked about what the us was prepared to do in everything from economic assistance to diplomatic recognition to working with the taliban, he said quite simply — quote — "it'll come down to the taliban actually following through." he meant on pledges, for example, on rights of women. before we can talk about things like embassies, recognition and stuff like that, do you think that the us and others have got it right, that they are waiting to see before offering any new material assistance? first of all, we are ...

And stuff like that, do you think that the us and others have got it right, that they are waiting to see before offering any new material assistance? first of all, we are disappointed at the us, to be very honest. if they had gotten it right, we would not be in this situation. there will have been the takeover in kabul, whether it be not based on a military takeover, but on a political transition in which the us could certainly play a more sort of effective role, which they didn't. now of any country, western country, it's been the us that has been in close interaction with the taliban. they h...

Again, attention to humanitarian assistance in this country. right. when the us national security adviser, jake sullivan, was asked about what the us was prepared to do in everything from economic assistance to diplomatic recognition to working with the taliban, he said quite simply — quote — "it'll come down to the taliban actually following through." he meant on pledges, for example, on rights of women. before we can talk about things like embassies, recognition and stuff like that, do you think that the us and others have got it right, that they are waiting to see before offering any ne...

Do you think that the us and others have got it right, that they are waiting to see before offering any new material assistance? first of all, we are disappointed at the us, to be very honest. if they had gotten it right, we would not be in this situation. there will have been the takeover in kabul, whether it be not based on a military takeover, but on a political transition in which the us could certainly play a more sort of effective role, which they didn't. now of any country, western country, it's been the us that has been in close interaction with the taliban. they have active discussion...