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With colds, and i knew that there was a history of cancer in my family, diabetes, heart disease. i was a walking dead man. >> i was a business guy and i thought if we could influence behavior of our 200,000-person workforce, we could have a material effect on health care costs. the easiest starting point was in the 30,000 non-union workforce, and i believe that within four years all of our employees will get this kind of health care plan. all americans have accepted for 50 or more years in the automobile insurance industry that driving record dictates premium. and all insurance companies are s...

My family, diabetes, heart disease. i was a walking dead man. >> i was a business guy and i thought if we could influence behavior of about 200,000-person workforce, we could have a material effect on health care costs. the easiest starting point was in the 30,000 non-union workforce, and i believe within four years all of our employees will get this kind of health care plan. all americans have accepted for 50 or more years in the automobile insurance industry that driving record dictates premium. and all insurance companies are saying is your behavior should drive the premium. and health care...

A history of cancer in my family and diabetes and heart disease. i was a walking dead man. >> i was a business guy and i thought if we could influence behavior of the 200,000 person workforce, we can have a material effect on health care costs. the easiest starting point was in the 30,000 nonunion workforce. i believe within four years, all of our employees will get this plan. all americans have accepted in the insurance industry. the driving record dictates premium and all insurance companies are saying your behavior should drive the premium. health care doesn't need to be immune to that. we ...

Disease. i was a walking dead man. >> i was a business guy and i thought if we could influence behavior of about 200,000-person workforce, we could have a material effect on health care costs. the easiest starting point was in the 30,000 non-union workforce, and i believe within four years all of our employees will get this kind of health care plan. all americans have accepted for 50 or more years in the automobile insurance industry that driving record dictates premium. and all insurance companies are saying is your behavior should drive the premium. and health care doesn't need to be immune ...

And economists, college professors, journalists that say it will not just haven't lived in the real world. >> i agree with you. the expiration of the 2% payroll tax cut at the end of the year had a material effect. you saw walmart and burger king. i don't really care if we raise taxes now or later but tax increases have to be part of this 10 year package. >> i agree, just like medicare cuts. >> i agree. >> we have to be so careful about what we do, the economy is upside down. the fourth quarter we were in the negative. have to be careful now and we've got to plan ten years ahead. >> you agree....