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Truth, only person that's telling the truth is brett kavanaugh. >> i think the only thing we have to separate is lying about what -- and i know we all say, we all teach our kids, all lies are bad. but they're not all equal. and it has to be a material misrepresentation. and it's for the senators to decide. but i'll tell you what. conversations like this, access to your client, and what she's going to be table to offer, very helpful. >> she has offered to take a polygraph exam. she's offered to meet with the fbi. she's offered to be cross-examined by brett kavanaugh's attorney, as long as he wi...

>> i agree with you, but this guy has lied repeatedly throughout the process. fox news, the senate judiciary committee. he is not a genuine person, he is lying repeatedly about drinking too much. i mean, let me get this straight. all of these women are liars. his friends from yale law school, they're liars. the only person that's telling truth, only person that's telling the truth is brett kavanaugh. >> i think the only thing we have to separate is lying about what -- and i know we all say, we all teach our kids, all lies are bad. but they're not all equal. and it has to be a material misrepre...

So how would the allegation be corroborated in that setting when you're only setting it up for a he said/she said. it was set up to be unsatisfying. that's why brett kavanaugh took the unprecedented step of going on fox and painting a perfect picture of himself before a friendly face. and by doing so, he painted himself into a corner that he has spent every moment since then trying to get out of. the proof? many who have known him and may have thought he was a fine choice for the supreme court heard him say things in that interview and then under oath that bothered them because they know diffe...

If judge kavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee, nomination's over? >> oh, yes. >> i'm going to give you the eyebrows facedown? really? interesting to hear the senators do that. why? because are all lies equal? i know we tell our kids they are. but in this setting, a material misrepresentation of fact. does this qualify? now, if it turns out that kavanaugh did lie under oath, the trouble for senators who you be, now, do i trust anything that he said? well, that's not a legal standard. yes, it is. so, it's certainly up for debate. and we're going to do that right now. jennifer granhol...

After he announced that philadelphia would no longer give data to i.c.e. and turned around and the guy who had been deported came back five years later, i.c.e. asked for a detainer for the man, philadelphia let him go and he raped a 5-year-old child? none of this is fact? none of this is true? >> who says it's not fact? who says it's not true? >> how is that less relevant than you trying to get me to answer the same question 12 times? >> because you keep ducking it. he lied, kellyanne. >> i'm not ducking. he answered the question. >> he lied. >> why are his words not important to you? >> becau...