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Republicans don't get some of their big promises through and lose their majority, you can bet they won't get through the next two years after the mid-terms. >> neil: you've been around to follow this. i feel like the republicans have not explained their position well or explain the ross perot-type charts and easel boards saying what we have not is not sustainable. math doesn't favor us. as many times as they bring that up, they have never illustrated to say we have no choice but to rework this. it seems to be something that they're not really effective at getting across. the urgency of doing s...

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For the republican party in this partisan fight is saying, he's already socking it to the rich. he's willing to raise their taxes in various forms but just not the rate. isn't he agreeing in principle to the president's argument of fairness? isn't he in a weaker position to deny a rate change? governor? >> sure he is, chris. number one, he hasn't specified what deductions so we don't have a clue. number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise ...

Fairness? isn't he in a weaker position to deny a rate change? governor? >> sure he is, chris. number one, he hasn't specified what deductions so we don't have a clue. number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, th...