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Worldwide. we'll need that. >> i think if people throttle back a little bit on the verbiage and the emotion and practice the zen of negotiations, if you will -- >> i like that. >> say hey look, here their numbers, the math doesn't lie. if you need a -- -- to deal with past wrongs, fine, but in the groce situation, they owed over $325 billion on july 4th. they had a referendum on the 5th, and july 6th they owed over $325 billion. the math doesn't change but the process needs to address the objective truth and move forward, and that's what is really key whether it's greece or anyplace else you h...

As governor with two things in mind. number one, always tell the truth. number two, try and effect real change and solve problems. it's the same thing we've done in the u.s. house. it's what paul ryan brings to the ticket, because frankly the budget that he designed and drafted is about fixing problems. it's also, sean, about really telling the american people the math doesn't lie. we can't continue to spend money we don't have. we got to fix the problems. >> sean: it's interesting. we'll discuss this with governor walker later in the program tonight, and governor kasich. two governors faced m...

That there couldn't be agreement. the white house and the senate did not agree with us on the fact that we believe you've got to fix the real problem which disproportionately falls into the area of health care entitlements. we get the numbers. i mean, the numbers are every day 10,000 people turn 65 and become eligible for medicare. every day. the problem is, that program gets its support and moneys from premiums and taxes that people pay in, but that flow of revenue only covers a little over half the cost of that program. so every daytimes 10,000, you are that much further in the hole. we've g...

Republican establishment and rnc doing something and forcing him out f that's the case then i'm voting for trump as an independent and it's going to teach republicans a lesson even if we have another democrat. >> for those of who you are -- who would not support trump if he ran as an independent, why would you not support him? >> ross perot. >> you think it would help elect a democrat? >> absolutely. the math is done. math doesn't lie. >> all right. so let's listen to more of the reasons the group is attracted to him. >> like he said i won't be bought off. whereas anybody else they have the ch...